Yeah, I'm thinking about one of those iPod Nanos now that they added the video and games. The iPod Touch looks nice, but way too much for what I'm likely to do with it.
Also, the 8GB iPhone dropped $200 in price and the 4GB model is now discontinued. For those who bought the 8GB at $599, they said to wait a day (which it has now been) and the stores will know how to deal with the price drop. I know at least one person on here bought one.
I know Holly doesn't spend allot of time watching stock programs, but I am hearing from many sources that the target for Apple stock is $180 - $210 by the end of the year, so don't frown to much there, Princess. One year ago you were at $73.91 and you are now at $135.01, overvalued trash stock at 38.13 P/E ratio. That stock should be priced at around $50 for the earnings of that company. One misstep by the apple god and you will be sucking hind tit. Besides, everything is volatile right now. Hell, I have stocks that haven't moved in years as much as they have in the last few months.
Yes, Pat, I actually do read the projections of future earnings (though I read $170), which is what makes current losses ($15 down in a day, which is a lot for most stocks) even more confusing - why sell like crazy when you stand to gain an extra $50/share? And it really doesn't make sense that this is happening amongst good news that will only increase sales. I know you like to think I'm a moron, but give me a little credit
I think part of the problem is that investors understood that people would be angry over the price drop and demand some sort of refund. That refund has now been announced and will probably put a decent dent in Apple's bottom line for the quarter. It was estimated that with over 70,000 units sold a ~$7,000,000 hit isn't going to go over well with the stockholders.
I think you're right though in that the ones dropping the stock are just idiots and aren't looking at the long term performance forecasts.
The growth trend for Apple, on pretty much all of their markets (music, tv, laptops, iPods), is trending upwards. Jerry is right tough, on the short term this is not a cost savings thing, but in the long term, it does throw the early adopters a bone...It's almost affordable enough to buy now...now if we could only afford the phone plan.
And this is pretty funny. I didn't know the $100 was a voucher to the store, where, yes, they will most likely profit from people using the refund as they'll buy something that's more than $100
Apple introduces the iPology 8:32a ET September 7, 2007 (MarketWatch) LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Apple Computer has developed and introduced an entirely new marketing innovation called the iPology that turns customer complaints into free publicity.
Late Thursday Apple CEO Steve Jobs unveiled the iPology in a letter to early purchasers of the company's iPhone who paid $600 for the devices just weeks before the company dropped the price by $200.
The letter apologized for disappointing some of them, but noted that price cuts on technology products are common in Silicon Valley.
"There is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever," Jobs wrote. "This is life in the technology lane."
After telling the customers to get over it, Apple said it would give everybody who was still mad $100 to spend anywhere they want ... inside an Apple store.
Cynical observes suggested that the company won't suffer from issuing the "gift" certificates, noting that if they are used to buy iPods, for instance, the company will likely make up the "cost" through increased sales at its iTunes store.
The iPology is so new a concept that some media and industry analysts mistook it for an actual apology and suggested that Apple might have somehow made a mistake.
But a quick glance at the number of front page stories Friday makes clear that Apple has generated tens of millions of dollars worth of publicity through the scheme, contributing to the nearly continuous branding of the gadget into the public consciousness.
Apple is expected to make strategic use of the iPology in future marketing campaigns but is unlikely to license the concept to other companies because of the complex technical requirements needed for successful implementation of the strategy.
The $100 Apple Store voucher is nothing like a $100 refund. For starters, only a fraction of people will use it. So say I put it on a $1200 computer, that doesn't really cost Apple $100, they just get a smaller profit margin on that system. In the end it might cost them something like $20 per iPhone customer.
As much as I think the "i" naming is cute, "Ipology" just made me shake my head. Though I couldn't tell if Jobs coined it that or reporters
That and I think they made a mistake lowering the price after, what 3 months on the market (or less)? At least wait 8-12 months, then people would understand more why the price was lowered. I haven't heard of many technologies that lower the price after 3 months
Mine is more to guarantee that they meet their million iPhone sales by some specific date...which is something they said they'd do in their last quarterly report.
I think it's a price correction. Someone estimated the iPhone costs Apple about $200 to build, but they were selling it for $600. That's and insane profit margin. Most hardware profit margins are much slimmer.
People bitched about the PS3 costing $600, but it cost Sony over $400 to build (some estimated it to be closer to $600 per unit). Sony did drop the price of the original units by $100 after 6 or 8 months.
I just heard on the news that AT&T is blaming the itunes servers...I'm guessing it's AT&T interface to them...since that what would do the actual activiation...there were activation problems the first time round...
On the PS3 thing: I read an article on hardocp that the ps3 hardware had caused Sony to take a loss of over 3.1 billion dollars due to the fact they were taking a loss on every single unit sold.